I saw Marguerite Rigoglioso, our guest for todays episode, on an interview with Gaia and she moved me to tears. Not because she said anything sentimental or sad, but I think it’s because she gave me some validation that I was looking for and you’ll soon understand why.
Some of you might be of Christian faith and if you are you know the story of the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus, who fell pregnant by God and gave birth to Jesus Christ in a manger.
I believe you will find two types of Christians: those that will tell you yes they go to church on Christmas and Easter but they remain skeptic in the belief that Mary was a virgin who fell pregnant by God, through no choice of her own, and gave birth to a real human baby
and you will equally find those who 100% believe it all.
What I love about Marguerite, and her work, and this interview, is that she has allowed me to find my stance somewhere right in the middle. And if you’ve been listening to my show for a while, you know that right in the middle is the sweet spot for me. It’s where I strive to be, and i’m finding the goal is the same whether it’s with medicine or spirituality.
My whole life I’ve had trouble with Mary’s story. I believe so whole heartedly in her, and in her energy, and in her divine help. I go into three specific stories in this episode. But I could never grasp what might have happened all those 2000 years ago. it never made sense to me, in my thinking brain, how it is even a remote possibility for this conception to have occurred. Fast forward to 5 years of trying to conceive with every means possible – now I REALLY can’t get behind Mary just all a sudden showing up one day, single mom, baby in the belly. They def didn’t have IVF back then (and even if they did – I’m sure they didn’t guarantee a baby Jesus in the disclosure).
But let me tell you what they did have – they had practice, and ritual, and this learned practice that Marguerite talks about, (a scientific term) called
Parthenogensis. Parthenogensis comes from greek word – Parthenos (virgin) and gignesthai – to be born – to be born of a virgin maiden
you might only hear of it these days when you hear about a whale or an animal in captivity who (often bc of the immense stress of captivity) will conceive by themselves, basically self-replicate. I remember this article from a few years ago on national geographic about a shark that conceived through parthenogenesis
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/zebra-shark-virgin-birth-reproduction
So anyway, we see this kind of thing, its a “real concept” but when we think of humans doing it , it’s just too unfathomable, unimaginable, for us to picture. But, thats because it’s unknown.
Now, I haven’t done the research on it. I’m not the PhD here, Marguerite is. She tells us that this is a practice that was learned and passed on through lineages of women (hence the sub title of her book, Mary and the lineage of Virgin births). and thats why it’s relevant for us and for this podcast.
because, let me tell you what I learned from marguerite – Mary was no damsel in distress who suddenly fell pregnant with a savior
Mary WILLed this to be true. Mary had intention, she had mentors (like her mother, Anne, who ALSO GAVE BIRTH TO MARY through parthenogenesis.
Maybe we wont be able to learn the practice of parthenogenesis in this lifetime, but we can learn these ancient mantras and yantras and meditations and practices that will, like Mary, help our womb open to receive seed -whether its man seed, or star seed, or our own seed through parthenogenesis.
Mary is a divine feminine energy and she’s a powerful being that is still available to us. She is here to communicate with us, to help with our growth. Marguerite tells us to sit with her, have tea with her, pray with her, meditate with her. Ask her to show you the way
so let me back up quick, tell you about marg. she is a phD, a researcher and author , including her new book which is a huge basis for our conversation titled “The mystery tradition of miraculous conception : Mary and the lineage of Virgin Births”
she is the founder of 7 Sisters Mystery School located right here in Massachusetts
This website above is where you can also find links to her online courses, blog, school, any other info about her
To write this book, Marguerite interpreted her way through a gospel (Infancy Gospel of James, which is not recognized as an official gospel of the christian church). She sort of pulls apart and interprets this gospel, along side ancient literature from all over the world including the Qaran and ancient greek/hebrew legends and bibles. She sources texts where the authors couldn’t have possibly have known or seen one another. Texts that are ancient palm leaf manuscripts. You really grow to appreciate the type of digging it takes when you are looking for validation in a time before pen and paper and laptops and twitter and spell check and siri to translate words arrived.
Marguerite digs and she researches and compares. She talks beautifully about this figure 8 relationship in her brain which I’ve heard her mention before and i love the analogy. its like she feeds the left side of her brain with facts with something she reads and that converts over to the right side of her brain which is intuition and feeling and she’ll think “ohhh this must be what they meant when they said this” – so that loops back to the left brain where she tries to find something in the text to corroborate her intuition #facts… and its then a constant loop of “does this feel true? yes “ ok lets find something to prove it “
These practices aren’t concept you can learn over night. This connection to mother Mary, the divine feminine, the whole womb chakra- it’s a connection that takes practice and tuning, like any connection in life.
We need to try to invite it in and I believe this interview with marguerite will be that invitation you were looking for .
Links:
The Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception: Mary and the Lineage of Virgin Births
https://www.innertraditions.com/books/the-mystery-tradition-of-miraculous-conception
(there’s a 25% site coupon on if you sign up for their email list)
can also find on amazon but if possible ordering through the publisher is most beneficial for those who spent their energy writing the book
Holy Womb Chakra teachings:
The National Shrine of The Divine Mercy in Stockbridge, MA:
https://www.shrineofdivinemercy.org
MaryBus 